Friday, February 27, 2009

Nod problems

"It's a Nod problem." she says.

"An odd problem?"

"A Nod problem. You know, the land of Nod, east of Eden? In the Bible?"

"I know the reference. but..."

"Cain kills his brother Able." she says, "and God sets him wandering in the wilderness as a punishment. Cain ends up in Nod, where he settles and gets married. Which is a problem, logically, because Adam and Eve are supposed to be the first people on earth, and as far as we know, Cain and Abel are their only children. So where did this wife come from?

"Now, people who don't believe in the Bible tend to think the Nod problem is a big deal. Like for example, there was this guy my mother dated one time for a couple months, Roger, who was this totally rabid atheist, and he used to pick on Phil__"

"Your brother was religious?" the doctor asks.

"In a little-boy kind of way. My mother was raised Lutheran, and even though she didn't really believe, she took us to church because she thought it would be good for us. I stopped going as soon as I was old enough to say no, but Phil really got into it. Said his prayers every day, the whole bit. So along comes Roger, and he's constantly razzing Phil about inconsistencies in Scripture.

'Hey Phil, it says here in the Gospels that Judas hanged himself because he was sorry for betraying Christ. But it says in Acts that Judas wasn't sorry, and he died when his stomach exploded. How come there are two difference versions of the story?' Or, 'Hey Phil, if all the disciples fell asleep in the Garden of Gethsemane, how did Matthew know what Jesus said in his prayers?' The Nod problem, though, that was his favorite; 'Hey Phil, it says that God put a mark on Cain to warn other people not to harm him. What other people, Phil? His parents? The same one who didn't listen when God told them not to eat the fruit?'

"And how did Phil respond?"

"Well like I said before, Phil was a big-time nitpicker himself, so at first he kind of got into it. He tried to play along, only Roger wasn't playing. Roger would shoot down every explanation Phil came up with, until finally Phil had to admit he didn't have an answer, and then Roger would say. 'So does that mean you're going to give up this Bible nonsense?' and Phil would say. 'No,' and Roger would say, "That's because religion makes people stupid."

"What did you think of that?"

"Oh , I definitely think religion makes people stupid." she says. "But Roger was still a hypocrite."

"Why a hypocrite?"

"Because the Nod problems didn't have anything to do with him being an atheist. If the Bible had been perfectly consistent, he still wouldn't have believed a word of it. His mind was made up, and pointing out contradictions was just away of being smug- and meanwhile, he completely missed where Phil was coming from.

"Phil did believe in the Bible. Part of believing that the Bible is true is believing that any problems in the text have solutions. Actually knowing what solution are isn't important. It's like, just because I can't tell you what killed the dinosaurs doesn't mean they aren't extinct. And so to Phil, looking at it from that perspective, it was Roger who was being unreasonable. So Phil didn't know where Cain's wife came from. So what?

"And it's the same with this." She waves a hand at the papers in front of her. "Don't pretend this is some kind of objectives inquiry for you. You've already decided what you believe. All you're doing now is looking for a club to beat me with until I agree to see things your way."

"Jane..."

"But that's not going to happen. I know my story is true. If something about it doesn't add up for you, we can discuss it, but don't try to blow a little discrepancy out of proportion. It's just a Nod problem."

"Well, you're putting me in a difficult position," the doctor says. "If I can't question inconsistencies in your account__"

"You can question them. I just said we can discuss it."

"But you're unwilling to entertain any real doubt."

"Which makes us even," she says. "Just like Phil and Roger."

The doctor frowns.

"Sorry to spoil your game plan. Does this mean you don't want to hear any more?"

"No, I still want to hear the whole story."

"Good. Because it would make you a liar if you didn't. I mean, you're already a liar for saying you'd keep an open mind, but if you bailed on me now you'd be a double liar."

CREDITS: extracted from the book, Bad Monkeys by Matt Ruff.

*PLEASE DON'T SUE ME!, I thought I would make people curious about this book. ^.^*

*WINKS WINKS WINKS!!!*

i just especially like this part of the book so far, it makes you think, and actually, overly thinking is just as bad. some times all we need is faith. there's no need to think too much on certain things in life. if we did, my first question is always, why is an apple, called an apple? since it's the first thing/item you learn when you learn ABC.

8 comments:

deeperanddeeper said...

hmmm .... seems like it's gonna be an interesting read! must look for it!

Glog said...

Ahhh... lovely...
Kinda got me going on as well...

MrBunnyBan said...

Personally, I wouldn't attack all the facts in the bible (Too much ammunition?) as logic isn't really important to faith anyway.

Reszurrecdito M. d'Saintner said...

Seriously speaking, being a believer, I cannot not believe in the Bible, although, yes, some of them look really illogical.

BobnHouTex said...
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BobnHouTex said...

God created man to rule over the earth in Genesis chapter 1 then in chapter 2 He created Adam and placed him in the garden. Two different events. This is important because the Bible is a book about the blood line of Christ. The only time the Bible talks about other groups of people is when they come in contact with the offspring of Adam. Read the Bible some time if you don't believe me.

Little Prince said...

deeperanddeeper & glog: it is, kinda fun. i love jane. LOLS.

ban & saintner: yea, don't question, just have faith.

bobnhoutex: thank you for not being an anonymous. i didn't say i don't believe you. all i am saying is, just don't think too much. but honestly i am too lazy to read the bible, why don't you story me like in "The Reader" ^.^

Alex said...

Ah... don't question, just have faith and believe right?
Same goes with all the other gods and religions. How do you know yours is the right one? After all, the adherents of other religions believed as strongly as you in their own gods and religion. Don't question, just have faith and believe? It doesn't work that way.